{"id":3001,"date":"2009-03-30T16:37:54","date_gmt":"2009-03-30T16:37:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/?p=3001"},"modified":"2009-03-30T16:37:54","modified_gmt":"2009-03-30T16:37:54","slug":"2009-3-30-bibi-vs-ajami-back-in-the-days-html","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/?p=3001","title":{"rendered":"Bibi vs. Ajami, back in the days"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-src=\"v5\"><strong>Update: VIDEO FOUND<\/strong> OK, a little Googling enabled me to find a copy of the Netanyahu tape on the Israeli site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mahnishmah.com\/system\/scripts\/modules\/admin\/pages\/show_page.cgi?&#038;p=7407\">MahNishMah!?<\/a>, since the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yCRyG8Euibc&#038;feature=player_embedded\">original<\/a> YouTube version was removed and its account shut down.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out that the tape has made <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jpost.com\/servlet\/Satellite?cid=1237727563489&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull\">quite a stir<\/a> in Israel, as Netanyahu is about to become PM for the second time. <a href=\"http:\/\/shilohmusings.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/big-difference-between-bibi-and-obama.html\">Right-wingers<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/jpundit.typepad.com\/jci\/2009\/03\/netanyahu-then-and-now.html\">saw<\/a> in Young Bibi (who then called himself Ben Nitay) a better version of his current self, seen as too accommodating (!) to Obama. <\/p>\n<p>In the video, Bibi says he is 28-years-old and describes himself as an &#8220;economic consultant&#8221; &#8212; indeed according to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Benjamin_Netanyahu\">Wikipedia<\/a> he worked at Boston Consulting Group immediately after graduating from Harvard at that time. He was as smarmy then as he is now.<\/p>\n<p>But actually if you listen carefully to what he says, he is arguing that Palestinian should not have self-determination (which would be &#8220;unfair&#8221; because there are already 21 Arab states) but instead integrate Jordan or Israel. He argues forcefully that Israel is a democracy and West Bankers and Gazans would be given the right to vote in Israel. Obviously this must predate the current Israeli concern about Palestinian demographics, although Fouad Ajami does raise this issue. So, once again, is Bibi Netanyahu advocating a one-state solution?<\/p>\n<p>Here is the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LadH26dCYao\">video on YouTube<\/a>. (It will take a little while for YouTube to process the video, so it might not be immediately available.)<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LadH26dCYao&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LadH26dCYao&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p><strike>I will soon add a link to a MP4 format file for downloading in case YouTube removes the video again.<\/strike> <a href=\"http:\/\/web.me.com\/issandr\/filechute\/7407_bibi.mp4\">Download<\/a> in MP4 format (Quicktime, 31.6MB).<\/p>\n<p>Originally found through: <a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/AngryArab\/~3\/u9lt8u_O4-I\/ajami-interrogates-netanyahuin-1978.html\">Angry Arab<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 2:<\/strong> Now also on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vimeo.com\/3937982\">Vimeo<\/a>, better quality.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div data-src=\"v5\"><strong>Update: VIDEO FOUND<\/strong> OK, a little Googling enabled me to find a copy of the Netanyahu tape on the Israeli site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mahnishmah.com\/system\/scripts\/modules\/admin\/pages\/show_page.cgi?&#038;p=7407\">MahNishMah!?<\/a>, since the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yCRyG8Euibc&#038;feature=player_embedded\">original<\/a> YouTube version was removed and its account shut down.<br \/>\nIt turns out that the tape has made <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jpost.com\/servlet\/Satellite?cid=1237727563489&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull\">quite a stir<\/a> in Israel, as Netanyahu is about to become PM for the second time. <a href=\"http:\/\/shilohmusings.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/big-difference-between-bibi-and-obama.html\">Right-wingers<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/jpundit.typepad.com\/jci\/2009\/03\/netanyahu-then-and-now.html\">saw<\/a> in Young Bibi (who then called himself Ben Nitay) a better version of his current self, seen as too accommodating (!) to Obama.<br \/>\nIn the video, Bibi says he is 28-years-old and describes himself as an &#8220;economic consultant&#8221; &#8212; indeed according to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Benjamin_Netanyahu\">Wikipedia<\/a> he worked at Boston Consulting Group immediately after graduating from Harvard at that time. He was as smarmy then as he is now.<br \/>\nBut actually if you listen carefully to what he says, he is arguing that Palestinian should not have self-determination (which would be &#8220;unfair&#8221; because there are already 21 Arab states) but instead integrate Jordan or Israel. He argues forcefully that Israel is a democracy and West Bankers and Gazans would be given the right to vote in Israel. Obviously this must predate the current Israeli concern about Palestinian demographics, although Fouad Ajami does raise this issue. So, once again, is Bibi Netanyahu advocating a one-state solution?<br \/>\nHere is the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LadH26dCYao\">video on YouTube<\/a>. (It will take a little while for YouTube to process the video, so it might not be immediately available.)<br \/>\n<object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LadH26dCYao&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LadH26dCYao&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><br \/>\n<strike>I will soon add a link to a MP4 format file for downloading in case YouTube removes the video again.<\/strike> <a href=\"http:\/\/web.me.com\/issandr\/filechute\/7407_bibi.mp4\">Download<\/a> in MP4 format (Quicktime, 31.6MB).<br \/>\nOriginally found through: <a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/AngryArab\/~3\/u9lt8u_O4-I\/ajami-interrogates-netanyahuin-1978.html\">Angry Arab<\/a>.<br \/>\n<strong>Update 2:<\/strong> Now also on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vimeo.com\/3937982\">Vimeo<\/a>, better quality.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4,547],"tags":[545,59,546],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3001"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3001"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3001\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3001"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3001"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/amrani.cc\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3001"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}