Al Hayat reported today that 34 Copts have been detained by Egyptian authorities in connection with the demonstrations that followed the conversion of a vice-bishop’s wife to Islam. Among the seven charges against them: inciting unrest, exploiting religion to incite ethnic discord, resisting authorities, and using force and violence. Also, implications or accusations that the woman’s conversion was less than voluntary appear to be unfounded. Al Hayat reports that church officials have spent the past two days trying to convince the woman to renounce her conversion– but in vain.
Well, excu-u-use me!!! “Charles Levinson?”
Mee zeh??? Mah karah kahn? Mah pitoom?!
LOL.
Be back later for an explanation.
You betcha!
Excuse me.
“Saudi parliament button ”
In your fucking Saudi parliament are as much jews as are muslims in the fucking german parliament.
50 cents explanation?
No, Thank you.
For those who are as confused as I am by the above comment, I believe it’s a reference to http://eclectchap.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_eclectchap_archive.html#110237615149941042“>this post on button’s site.
Keep it civil, guys…
I also think “button” was being sarcastic.
In any event, Shual is wrong; there are at least two Muslim members of the Bundestag (and also Cem Özdemir, who was first elected to the Bundestag in 1994 and is now a member of the European Parliament).
Sorry for causing such a ruckus on your weblong. I was in a rush this morning when I went online and failed to catch the bio info about Mr. Levinson.
I am a former Bedouin liason. In 1964-65, while assigned to an experimental agricultural station in a remote area of the Negev outback, my main occupation was pruning and maintaining an experimental grape arbor, but sporadically I was assigned to work with neighboring Bedouins. And my roommate was a female student Arabic interpreter. So I learned a little Arabic.
I need to put some bio/profile info at my blog. But, obviously, I don’t dislike Arabs. If I did, I wouldn’t have worked with Bedouins.
Wow, there’s a lot of free-floating anger out there!
Sounds good, Mr. Button.
In addition to 34 reported detained….Arabic news is reporting:
Security sources said that 55 persons including 24 policemen were injured in clashes took place on Wednesday at the entrance of the Coptic cathedral in Cairo. The sources added that the majority of the injuries took place because of throwing stones from inside the cathedral complex at the policemen and the passersby.
agenda. You know the hysteria about that Coptic woman’s forced conversion? That was just a lie, […]
nda. You remember the hysteria about that Coptic woman’s forced conversion? That was just a lie, […]
Some additional words about the prophylactic post No 2 if you don’t mind.
We, the very small minority of people from very different countries that have the chance to talk with each other in a free room are living in permanent danger of getting trivial. Getting as trivial as the political establishment. We should care of each other. We are the first ones of the human race that can be together over continents and religion and social circumstances. In 200 years the people will remember our work and they will notice the importance.
Mr. button, and I hope he does not think its something “personal”, was on a wrong way. First his very intresting combination of responsibilty: An elected member of the Knesset said something absolutly wrong, and I think that happens almost every time when a Knesset member opens his mouth. But it can not be the answer to connet a Knesset member to something he has nothing to do with. An Israeli arab is no Saudi and has no responsibilities od what is going on in Saudiland. You all know that antisemitism is working like that: something wrong happens, but its not enough to talk about the reality, the antisemite has to make it even worser. The reality of 3000+x killed Pals is bad enough, but to tell it a genozide is far from reality. The reaction of Mr. button, to be as far from reality as the Israeli arab is very simple but its the same level. And it does not solve a problem, it is the problem itselve. To be like the establishment, to copy them, to talk like them, to use their irreal thinking to express something is not the answer.
As he came here and wanted to present something special about Levinson, I thougth it was time to get his attention. It does not matter, positive or negative messages about Levinson are not intresting. I know people that say about me: “He is an ULTRA-Zionist”. And other ones think I am a Nazi. You can find that I am drug-addicted, an alcoholic, that am insane, aggressive, and so one. Oh, I have received some compliments, too. And belive me, I don’t care.
Levinson? Isn’t [s]he an Israeli supermodel?
PS: Jonathan, I am mathemathically correct: 0 Jews in Saudi-Arabia = 0 members of the parliament are as much muslims 3 million in germany = 2 members of the parliament.
0 influence. The situation of all minorities in all countries is a perfect desaster. Local differneces, but in the end its the same thing. The key problem is the fiscal desaster. The states have no money left, so the states try to solve the integration-problems via uniformism. That worked with the EU-refugees after WWII. “You are welcome if you think and talk and look like us. And we don’t care who is teaching you our language, or how to behave.” Thats the political agenda. So the immigrants organize themselves under their own rules. Sometimes very traditional rules, conservative rules. And thats not the way to buildt up an open society.
An example is … I still know only ONE family-connection between a Pal-family and a jewish family in germany. And the Pal-family is a cristian one from EastJerusalem. and I am very proud that I am allowed to watch these families live together. But the rest? Those other 200 000 families? They are talking bad about each other, not with each other. And the end of talking bad about each other is always one stupid extremist who thinks its time to act against the “other”. Verbal, or with force.
If you are a state and not able to connect your own inhabitants then something is wrong with you as a state. And nobody says that we need billions to connect people. Nobody has a concept of bringing people togehter. Very much “private” organisations are working, but the state is not intrested. This has to be the next step of all the states, to become responsible for the connection of the people.
Now we are still living in the times of “the other”. The people need the “other” to reflect themselves positively. They are not acting against brutality, or poorness because as long if they see the bad example of the “other”, as long they don’t have to change themselves. Democracy today only means that brutality is private and the states are earning money by exporting violence. Still living in the Cold-war-times. And as long the states don’t change their fiscal behaviour as long the masses will hunt the minorities and the minorities will react with violence.