Conversion Issues

A few days ago, Human Rights Watch and the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights published a report entitled “Prohibited Identities� about the discrimination of the Egyptian governments against those who either wish to identify as something other than the three “revealed� religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism) or those who wish to change their religion from Islam to something else. Although freedom of worship is clearly enshrined in Egyptian law, and conversion is nowhere forbidden, Bahai’s who have tried to register their religion, or Christians who converted to Islam and then decided they wanted to convert back to their original religion, have been flatly denied the right to do so by government officials (they’ve also been threatened and bribed). Some of these people have chosen to live without a national identity number and card, rather than file false information about their religious beliefs—but the lack of this national identity number means they are often barred form education, work, social services, etc. There are hundreds of cases in the Egyptian courts right now in which these people are trying to obtain the right to write whatever they want in their own records.  

I’ve been covering this issue for some time. You can see part of the results in a piece I filed recently for The World. Since that piece aired, there have been several new developments. Yesterday the case of Mohammed Hegazy—the first Muslim-born Egyptian citizen to go to court to try to officially change his religion to Christianity—was allowed to proceed. The next court session will be in January. Also, on November 17th a verdict will be handed down in the case of 12 former Christians sueing for the right to convert back officially to their religion. This case is expected to have wide repercussions on all similar cases (and the petitioners are optimistic about their chances of winning).

  I recommend reading the excellent HRW/EIPR report, but I just wanted to add a few remarks. One is that the discrimination against would-be converts and Bahai’s (and those who would just like to leave the religion line blank or saying “other�) may in part simply stem from the biases of Muslim government employees—but it is so widely and adamantly enforced that I can’t but assume it’s an actual policy, formulated and promulgated along internal channels, although I can’t quite understand to what ends. 

The other thing I’d like to get off my chest is my disappointment with Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa’s back-pedaling on this issue. In the summer, the Mufti had staked out a sensible position: conversion from Islam is a sin that will be punished in the afterlife, but not a crime that should be punished by the state. Apparently such subtlety is out the window these days. I saw the mufti on “Al Beit Beitakâ€� recently, and he’s back to saying that conversion from Islam cannot be countenanced (it also seemed to me that he was misrepresting Egyptian law and furiously spinning the meaning of personal freedom). Poor guy, he’s been issuing so many embarrassing fatwas lately he’s had to cry his way out of the mess. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like there will be any helpful religious leadership on the conversion issue, which threatens to get ever more “sensitive.â€�

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  1. Ursula, my church here in London sent a mission team to Egypt three years ago to work with what they call MBB’s — Muslim Background Believers. Obviously, these are folks who have converted to Christianity from Islam. Only once they do, they are legally ****ed. It is very difficult for these folks to even go to church (and when they do, they usually say their name is “George” or “Boutros” rather than Ahmed or Mohammed) because they’ll get turned in to the authorities. They have to meet in peoples’ apartments, and churches in the West have to send missionaries just to give these people some kind of spiritual support.

    Anyway, a few months ago, the Egyptian state security arrested one of these converts and interrogated him. He gave up the name of the missionary from London — while he (a Brit of Arab descent) and his wife were on vacation to Italy. When they returned, the Egyptians refused to let him back in the country. His wife had to pack up all their belongings and kids and move the family back to London. Madness.

  2. The situation in Egypt is a disgrace, even if one doesn’t sympathise with proselytising Evangelists. Fascinating to see that this country manages to be portrayed as “moderate” in articles and dispatches – you only need to be allied to the US and Israel to be characterised as such, it seems.

    There’s another state in the Middle East which has had numerous problems with conversion issues – the “only democracy in the Middle east”, i.e. Israel. I’ve had a rundown on that issue at my place: http://www.blog.ma/obiterdicta/index.php?action=article&id_article=15573 .

    Btw, Prevent Genocide has a comprehensive if not exhaustive compilation -here http://www.preventgenocide.org/prevent/removing-facilitating-factors/IDcards/survey/index.htm – of national laws imposing the mention of race or religion on identity cards – frightening, and some consolation however that Morocco isn’t on the list…

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